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Snap around the house - a sort of series

Snap number thirteenth

 

This was part of Mr Napoleon's tea service when he lived on the island of Saint Helena.

Snap around the house - a sort of series

Snap number thirteenth

 

This was part of Mr Napoleon's tea service when he lived on the island of Saint Helena.

comments (16)

It looks very delicate, Andrew. Napoleons ? Really..? smile
gutteridge: Yes, my grandfather’s grandfather met him on the island.
Well that's a treasure!!! How did you come by it?
gutteridge: My grandfather’s grandfather, Sir William Webber Doveton, met him on the island.
  • Philine
  • Germany
  • 12 Jul 2018, 06:46
and you are the proud owner of this wonderful, delicate plate! Oh, I could give an answer to Elizabeth!
gutteridge: I had to reply in one sentence.
  • Chris
  • Not Nowhere
  • 12 Jul 2018, 06:50
Do you think he looked at this lady as he was having his tea and thought FWOOAAAARR!!! Chad?
gutteridge: And when he did, did he imagine her replying, “Not tonight Boney”?
Is this Josephine?
gutteridge: It might be.
  • Philine
  • Germany
  • 12 Jul 2018, 08:09
"By the time of the revolution tea had become part of the aristocratic way of life, and it was beginning to spread to the bourgeoisie.

In 1796 Napoleon would write to Josephine: "Not one cup of tea have I taken without cursing the glory and the ambition that keeps me away from the soul of my life."

An indication of how common the drink was is that a right-wing political newspaper of the time went by the name of Le Thé.
According to Napoleon's biographer Philip Dwyer, newspaper hawkers were able to play on the title by yelling out "Qui veut du the? Il est fort le the!" (Who wants some tea? It's strong stuff, The Tea!")

In the 19th Century - with its periodic outbursts of Anglomania - tea became a passion for the well-off, who indulged themselves with expensive porcelain tea-sets and visits to "salons de the" in Biarritz and on the Riviera."
gutteridge: Thank you so much for this Philine, very interesting.
  • Philine
  • Germany
  • 12 Jul 2018, 08:14
"The historical figures associated with tea are mostly refined, respectable, peaceful and admirable: Jane Austen, Anton Chekhov and Leo Tolstoy among writers, for instance. How about their opposites: violent, vain, greedy, egomaniac, power hungry and disruptive?

The most colorful of such tea enthusiasts was Napoleon Bonaparte. He loved tea and all its accoutrements as much as he loved Josephine. Their marriage is best summarized as turbulent. It ended with a diplomatically forced divorce. (He needed the son she was not able to provide.) One of the most frequently quoted lines about tea comes from one of his many letters to her: “I cannot have a cup of tea without cursing the glory and the ambition which keep me away from the love of my life.” That love and his military glory are recorded on many teas sets throughout the 19th century.
One of Napoleon’s enduring legacies is tea sets. He ordered many customized designs, at outrageous expense, drawing on famed artists, and the superb porcelain of Sevres and Limoges."
gutteridge: Besides the plate I have a saucer, alas with no cup.
  • Alan
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 12 Jul 2018, 13:38
Reading what Philine has written it looks like me and Napoleon had some things in common. I did not fight in the Napoleonic wars, though. Ah.. neither did I have any plates like this.
gutteridge: Well you can’t have everything Alan so, if it’s close enough...
my mother might have had some dinnerware like this.

Mine are all simply solid colors or a local ceramic artists work that they traded with Merry for her counseling services.
gutteridge: There are no manufacturers marks in this plate, indicating its old.
  • Philine
  • Germany
  • 12 Jul 2018, 14:38
“The only good thing about St Helena is the coffee.” –Napoleon Bonaparte

This exhibition about Napoleon in St. Helena is très interessant: http://www.musee-armee.fr/ExpoNapoleonSainteHelene/
gutteridge: Yes, that is very good thank you Philine. It is funny how in England we are taught that Napoleon was an evil rampaging land conqueror, yet not any of the good things that he brought to Europe. Then I suppose that is what. Nationalism does.
  • Philine
  • Germany
  • 12 Jul 2018, 14:51
Napoleon and Josephine loved the violets (http://www.gartenveilchen.de/napoleon.htm), Josephine loved also the roses, see this tea service!
gutteridge: You seem to have quite an interest in Napoleon Philine.
It is a lovely plate Chad, what a fascinating thing to have. You've certainly given Philine an opportunity to interrogate the internet today, and what she's found is all very interesting.
gutteridge: Indeed Brian, I seem to have tweaked an interest in the Emporer.
  • sherri
  • Little Rock, Arkansas, USA
  • 12 Jul 2018, 20:39
it's a beautiful piece

i like the cloth as well

nicely chosen for the display
gutteridge: Thanks Sherri. The cloth is actually a part of a sofa.
Very tasteful, I'm sure - is this all that is left of the tea service?
gutteridge: It was shared and handed down and, well you know what happens over the years Tom. I do have a saucer too, but without a cup.
Delicate and beautiful.
gutteridge: Many thanks Larry.
It is wonderful to have this in your collection.

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